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Karen, This post and the recorded conversation are such a thrill for me. A real boon. Yesterday I spent the day reading Professor Zanotti's journal articles, "Ethics in a Quantum World" and "Cosmologies, coloniality and quantum Critique: Exploring conversations with Native American ways of knowing." I feel like there has been this confluence in my reading (trying to make sense of what is happening in the US and parts of Europe in the move away from the "liberal order" at a time of poly-crisis) and your and others' work cultivating this emergence of Quantum Social Theory..it feels like a very magical entanglement at the personal level.

It struck me during your discussion about what is happening in the US that is is possible to posit that the building and spreading resistance in the US across all the states, involving both parties and independents, and engaging citizens of different socio-economic backgrounds/realities, of various ages, IS a manifestation of quantum entanglement as one would expect if one believes that this ontology rather than the linear, distinct particles theory of knowledge, power, and, material relations. Of course, the Trump Regime is using the latter story to justify its overreach and, unfortunately, this is the paradigm that we in 'the West' have all been weened on. Yep, we can never loose sight of the importance of story/narrative to us humans...

Now living in Sweden, I am an expat US lawyer (civil rights and habeas) and did work on a masters in International Human Rights in 2010-11. I wrote my thesis on the US/Int'l Human Rights dynamic exploring a theory that the American population never experienced/embraced the abstract principals of the UN economic, social and cultural HR instruments in their 'hearts and minds'; the FDR/Eleanor Roosevelt, Francis Perkins' vision of the freedom from want-line of ESC rights never took root in the "small places" (a famous articulation by E. Roosevelt) of the American experience. At that time in this field (at least vis-a-vis my Oxford cohort), the closest source to suggesting QST that I came across was the then somewhat controversial theory of Christof Heyns who explored "A 'Struggle Approach' to Human Rights" stemming from his work in South Africa. He argued along the line that the contours of rights can/should arise out of the struggle of citizens to achieve them rather than delimited by the four corners of instruments drafted in the UN by professionals and politicians. Professor Zanotti's experience was with the peacekeeping rather than the UNHCR 'apparatus of the UN but the underlying Kantian-principles-over-intermeshed-particulars problem are the same to my mind.

Forgive me for the length of this comment. I just wanted to explain the background to my enthusiasm for this work and your Substack offerings. I just ordered your book, Zanotti's book, and Barad's and Wendt's too ...so I will be busy. Tusen Tack!

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